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subjective ([personal profile] subjective) wrote2003-02-14 06:57 pm

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i have the cutest friends in the world. no, for reals.

sitting in new york in the nicest dorm room in the world eating clementines, listening to heavenly, giggling with jen. reading up on info for the anti-war rally tomorrow. really glad to be here for it but feeling pretty nervous at the same time. and not because of code fucking orange, either.

leave a comment if you can tell me what the strategic point of doing action with the goal of getting arrested is. i've been thinking about this a lot.

[identity profile] annaclaire.livejournal.com 2003-02-14 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
good luck at the rally!
i went to the one in DC a few weeks back and it was one of the neatest experiences i've ever had.
this time, i'll be attending the demonstration here in sioux falls.
go get em, tiger.

[identity profile] naot.livejournal.com 2003-02-14 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
i think a lot of the appeal of getting arrested is that there'll be an official record of dissent, so the person/protest will be historicized. and also, getting arrested could lead to a court trial which could be publicized...lots of contingencies but any sort of official documentation of names, dates, words, whatevs, gives the issue some weight in the history books.

ps: good luck!!

[identity profile] ex-robotlove413.livejournal.com 2003-02-14 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)
hey, good luck for the rally. i just got back from the auckland march, there were about 10,000 people and it was lots of fun. my favourite thing was a 4 year old sitting on his father's shoulders saying "george bush, we know you, daddy was a killer too". so cute. i caught up with my little sister and we helped carry a really, really long banner that listed all the countries the US has bombed since world war 2. anyway, i worry about you people in places where protests could turn violent, and i hope it goes well.

[identity profile] epilady.livejournal.com 2003-02-15 08:08 am (UTC)(link)
Do you guys have our numbers?
What are you doing Sunday early afternoon???

XXXX M

[identity profile] subjective.livejournal.com 2003-02-15 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
michaela! shit, i guess i was hoping nimmy would get in touch with you about the change of plans. she didn't end up going after all, & i came back to boston early (just got home). we'll come back soon, together, & make definite plans with you two. sorry! xo.

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[identity profile] epilady.livejournal.com 2003-02-17 10:01 am (UTC)(link)
Aww, boo!

I'm sorry we missed each other, but really glad you didn't end up sticking around and getting arrested, as we suspect some of our friends have done.

This February is thesis month for me, but I'm hoping March and April will be very social.

And if I don't get to spend some for-reals QT with the two of you, I will cry. Really.

[identity profile] jvb419.livejournal.com 2003-02-15 09:53 am (UTC)(link)
I think deliberately courting arrest can have various goals. If you think the law you're being arrested under is vulnerable to a constitutional challenge on appeal, then getting arrested (followed by conviction at trial) is the only way to set the process in motion. If you think the public will be so outraged that they'll demand the law in question--even if constitutional--be amended or repealed, then that's the point. If you simply want to show that your convictions are strong enough to make you put up with arrest and jail (even if only until you make bail) then that's another reason. Or if you plan to offer a "nercessity" defense--that breaking the law was necessary in order to try to prevent a greater wrong--then, again, you have to get into court as a defendant in order to do that.

[identity profile] srl.livejournal.com 2003-02-16 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
So, how did things go? I spent most of the day on 1st between 61st and 62nd. No major catastrophes here, but i heard rumors of arrests and walls of riot police in some places.